the king of the north, that is, the king of the country geographically located north of judea/palestine was identified by the actual events of history as the seleucids of syria, in particular, the reign of antiochus iv epiphanes.
the king of the south, that is, the king of the country geographically located south of judea/palestine was identified by the actual events of history as the ptolemies of egypt.
daniel 11:40-45 prophesied that antiochus (king of the north) would make war once again against egypt, and would die on the coast of palestine “between the sea and the holy mountain”.
In other words the number of wars fought between the "King of the North and King of the South", as described in the bible book of Daniel, differs significantly from the actual number that were fought between the Greek dynasties in Syria and Egypt.
I guess that's what happens when you are dealing with a collection of Middle Eastern fairy tales!
you gotta wonder just how well jws are doing in "fulfilling their commission" in afghanistan, iran, malaysia, maldives, mauritania, nigeria, pakistan, qatar, saudi arabia, somalia, sudan, united arab emirates and yemen.
https://www.indy100.com/article/the-countries-where-apostasy-is-punishable-by-death--z110j2uwxb.
The Malaysian JW I knew reckoned you could always tell before entering a property whether or not a Muslim lived there. It sounded like the JWs in Malaysia go through the motions of carrying out a door-to-door campaign - but a very selective one!
the king of the north, that is, the king of the country geographically located north of judea/palestine was identified by the actual events of history as the seleucids of syria, in particular, the reign of antiochus iv epiphanes.
the king of the south, that is, the king of the country geographically located south of judea/palestine was identified by the actual events of history as the ptolemies of egypt.
daniel 11:40-45 prophesied that antiochus (king of the north) would make war once again against egypt, and would die on the coast of palestine “between the sea and the holy mountain”.
there was no third war
But I thought there were a total of six wars fought between the Ptolemaic and Seleucid dynasties, not two? Collectively, these are known to historians as the "Syrian Wars", and took place between 274 and 168 BC.
you gotta wonder just how well jws are doing in "fulfilling their commission" in afghanistan, iran, malaysia, maldives, mauritania, nigeria, pakistan, qatar, saudi arabia, somalia, sudan, united arab emirates and yemen.
https://www.indy100.com/article/the-countries-where-apostasy-is-punishable-by-death--z110j2uwxb.
A JW from Malaysia once told me that were they to even attempt to witness to just one Muslim person, the JWs would be banned from that country.
Instead, the Malaysian JWs focus on the Buddhist, Hindu and Christian elements of the population. And, as others here have correctly guessed, most of the "converts" have come from the Christian population.
(The majority of Malaysia's population is made up of the indigenous Malays, who are Muslim by religion. Chinese make up a large minority, most of whom are Buddhists. The other principal group are those whose ancestors came from what was then British India - the modern day countries of India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Their religions are Hinduism, Islam - and to a lesser extent, Christianity).
do these democrats really think that if they protest and wail about anything they don’t like , that policies will change ?
they are really embarrassing themselves..
It is all to easy to get drawn into the use of loaded language with this one.
If they agree with you, they are merely just “protesting.” Every time!
However, those not in agreement with you are always “whining”, “crying”, “bawling” cry-babies.
Oh yeah!
just a hypothetical question.
if the society was right and armageddon came a knocking would you want to live in a society run by the org and bully elders.. would rather die at armageddon.
i would.
This reminds me of the Canadian poet Robert Service, and his poem Song of the Wage Slave; the opening lines of which read:
and yet today's watchtower and indeed the bible condemns the israelites for moaning about having no water!
it's never occurred to me how unjust this is!
and how could a so called loving god not provide a basic human need?!.
Once again, those familiar with Jewish history would be quick to tell us that the Jewish writers of the Old Testament never intended their stories to be taken literally.
Why would you want to get bent all out of shape over a collection of Middle East fairy tales?
according to jw teaching, babylon the great is the name for all other religions except themselves and predicted its influence over governments would wane in the last days.
yet we find just opposite happening!.
we saw russian government acting against jws, we saw president trump’s swearing in ceremony where church official had central stage ….etc.. here is another sample!
A "gem" of wisdom I remember from the mid-1970s was their quoting of a certain verse in Revelation about the "River Euphrates running dry". Crazy Fred maintained that this scripture was even then being fulfilled - with the membership of "Babylon the Great" steadily declining.
At the time of that brilliant observation, the Catholic church had a total membership of about 750 million. Today, that number has almost doubled to 1.285 billion. The desert sands of the Middle East must be waterlogged or something - not doing a very good job of running the river dry!
encounter with c.i.a.
military dudewhat follows is my conversation with a well-muscled dude in a paramilitary shirt (outside on starbucks’ patio) yesterday.military dude: (pointing) “rear tire : ya got a flat, buddy.”me: “thanks.
slow leak.
Sir82
This story reminds me of a character I knew who used to boast about being in the French Foreign Legion.
He persisted in telling anybody who would listen how he "killed people with his bare hands" - even though his bare hands were unable to prevent the bus driver from throwing him out of the vehicle, after the passengers grew tired of his bragging.
i thought this was a very interesting argument by robert king.
i liked the point he made about if israel had a prophet who spoke in the name of jehovah and it did not occur did this mean that the nation of israel was a false prophet or more so if the nation of israel sincerely believed it.
the answer to that is a resounding no because the nation of israel was god’s appointed nation.
DoC,
I think you are right! This does very much come over as a "play on words".
Also chucked into the mix is a goodly measure of circular reasoning:
- Israel was "God's Chosen People". Who says? The bloody Israelites did - nobody else!
- The by inference, he is suggesting that the JWs themselves are "God's Chosen People". Who says? Again, the bloody JWs say that (definitely nobody else!)
